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Should There Be More Development On the Contra Costa Shoreline?

Supervisor Federal Glover unveiled his plan Tuesday to unite Contra Costa's waterfront cities into a political force.

Supervisor Federal Glover, who represents District V (including Martinez), unveiled a plan Tuesday at the Board of Supervisors meeting to unite business, political and other leaders of the waterfront cities from Richmond to Oakley to consider future development of the shoreline.

“When it became clear to me that the new District V boundaries were going to encompass most of the northern waterfront, I asked county staff to assess its potential for economic development,” said Glover, chair of the Contra Costa County Board of Supervisors.

The plan is called the Northern Waterfront Development Initiative. It calls for the county to convene a forum of industry, business and political leaders of the “working waterfront,” to explore the possibility of forming a political alliance that could be a force to be reckoned with. Bringing such diverse interests together, however, is hardly a given.

The areas to be studied would not include parks, open space and wetlands, which are all protected from development. The recreational part of the shoreline takes up about 60 percent of the waterfront.

The remaining waterfront area is mostly devoted to industrial uses established near the beginning of the previous century. Those industries make Contra Costa the second largest industrial area in the state, second only to Los Angeles County.

“We want to see if there are some common interests and goals shared by the industries, cities and businesses that can be accomplished more effectively if we speak with one strong voice,” said Glover.

“We want to strengthen our assets and make the area more attractive for new businesses that will provide good-paying jobs to improve the quality of life for our residents. The Northern Waterfront Initiative could be a major kick-start to Contra Costa County’s economy.”

Dave Thomas February 27, 2013 at 05:46 PM
The land from Richmond to Martinez that is SHORELINE is owned by the railroad or the refinery with some small exceptions. The abandoned RR tracks have been leased to refineries for pipelines. If the railroad takes by eminent domain some next to the shore could be built on top of the pipelines for homes but has no BUSINESS potential. The land which is under water contains some grey goooey stuff with the water very shallow thus boat traffic could stir it up. NORTH shore to me is Crocket to Martinez which is one big hillside with the shoreline OWNED by the Railroad. ATTRACTING BUSINESS? Improve commute and eliminate where ever possible that which makes starting or owning a business not attractive. Make the employees understand that enforcement should be by necessity and that such an approach is job security. It is impossible to unite Martinez and Pittsburg with the best example Martinez deciding to not own the Marina when it was offered as a gift from the state. P.S. I am not a business owner
MIKE ALFORD February 27, 2013 at 07:43 PM
Better Listen To What Mr.Thomas has just said Everything ha said makes sense and Now you can See Through all this And the Reason That for years they tried ti shove REDEVELOMPMENT into Martinez ! and why The Voters In Martinez turned it down -- No it all makes sense now Why the Mayor & City Counsel Have Never Finnished Our Marina (Which The State Gave Millions Of Tax Dollars To Martinez to build The Martinez Marina ) Im Going To Go Through The Information Thats Been Given & Sent to Me And has Also Been In The news papers - And when you See Just Who Benifits And Whos Going To Make Out On This ! I Will put the Names Together And --- Than You Figure it Out ! ---- You Will See When The names -- Dates --And places come Out --- Including WHY Havent We Been Paid MILLIONS In revenue From The Fuel That Shell has Sold as Fuel to The Big Tankers That Come And Go every Day From The Shell Docks In The Martinez Shell DOCKS --- And Im Talking About The FUEL that The Tankers Use To Power their Ships -- Not the Shell Prodects thay Move -- The Fuel That The Tankers have to BUY to fuel their Ships ---
Anne Mobley February 28, 2013 at 12:47 AM
We should all wake up to what is happening under our noses. This is all part of the United Nations Agenda 21 which standardizes programs to bring them into compliance with this plan for global governance which includes stack 'em and pack 'em housing close to transportation. Using greenhouse gas emission goals, local governments are in the process of controlling where and how we live, what we eat, what our children learn, and what laws we will live under. With the cover of “environmental concerns” our personal rights are being restricted. You will lose these rights: traveling freely, watering your garden, refusing smart meters, living in rural areas, owning property, and driving a private vehicle. Under the guise of “sustainable development” your property and civil rights are being systematically eliminated. This is not a conspiracy theory, it is happening. Check the verbiage in the General Plan, all the buzz words are in there. Planners have been trained in Agenda 21 tactics. Check out the article in the CC Times recently about merging nine counties. This totally takes away our local control. Check out the goals of One Bay Area. This means we will be required to meet arbitrary goals set by an unelected bodies such as ICLEI and ABAG. In California, 109 cities & 10 counties are dues paying members of ICLEI. Theirs is a whole life plan involving the education system, energy system, government, food production, transportation, and our health. 1 of 3.
Anne Mobley February 28, 2013 at 12:47 AM
We are considered a threat to our planet and our life choices must be restricted. While we support conservation, we do not support the loss of our civil rights to achieve environmental goals. In June ‘92, more than 178 governments met at a UN conference in Rio, including the US and adopted the Rio Declaration on Environment and Development, and the Statement of Principles for the Sustainable Management of Forests. It was the beginning of the systematic destruction of freedom for every American citizen. In ’95, by executive order, President Clinton established a Presidential Council on Sustainable Development. We did not get an opportunity to reject or support the idea. Clinton’s Council advisor, Lawrence, said: "Participating in a UN advocated planning process would very likely bring out many of the conspiracy-fixated groups and individuals in our society... This segment of our society who fear "one-world government" and a UN invasion of the United States...would actively work to defeat [Agenda 21]. So we call our process something else, such as comprehensive planning, growth management or smart growth." These are some of the buzz words to watch out for. 2 of 3
Anne Mobley February 28, 2013 at 12:48 AM
One of the planners (not a local planner) has said Agenda 21, "...proposes an array of actions which are intended to be implemented by every person on earth... It calls for specific changes in the activities of all people. ... Effective execution of Agenda 21 will require a profound reorientation of all humans, unlike anything the world has ever experienced." It sounds like a post-apocalyptic horror film, but this is reality that is unfolding before our very eyes. The United Nations is no friend to our Constitution and our freedom. Their viewpoint is completely against the hard-fought values and principles this country was built upon -- liberty, freedom, and individualism. YOU ARE THE ENEMY, according to the United Nations. Your greedy freedom, democracy, and right to wealth must be stopped! You may wonder how a global body could overrule your rights as an American...they believe they can do this because they do not respect the rights you hold.
MIKE ALFORD February 28, 2013 at 05:01 AM
Mrs Ann Mobely ! You have said So Much And Told Us More In Your Three Comments Than We Would Ever Hear From Our Controled Meda ,You Are Telling Us The Truth And We That Pay Attintion To What America,God And Country And what America Freedom & Demococracy Are All About And What These Dead Beats Are Doing To Our Constitution And WHY WE AS AMERICANS are Just Standing By And Letting This Go on ! We Should Be Ashamed To Just Stand By And Let This RAPE of Our American Rights & Freedom ! Not Tomorrow,Not Next Week Not At The Next MEETING and the LIES That And How We Have To pertisapate In This Housing & High Density Housing ! Right Now Stand Up And Put A Stop To This Insainty ! You Are The People That Live And Die as Americans And Its YOUR Money (TAX DOLLARS) That Fund These Anti- American Ideas We Are The Model For The Entire World ! There Is No Better System And We Are FREE If You Listen To This B.S. United Nations Agenda 21 ! All that our Fathers and Mothers,The Generations Before Their sacrafices Would Have Been In Vain ! You Will Become Nothing ! Our Idenity As The Greatest Nation And Americans Will Be A Forgotten Dream That Americans are Born To Fullful To Live Prosper and Enjoy Our God Given Rights To Live In Freedom ! Its Time To Start Listening To What Ann Mobley Has Just Briought To Everyones Attintion -- Start Asking Questions ! And DEMAND answers From Our So Called Leaders Stand Up As An American Taxpayer ! Remember Its Your Money,Blood Sweat That Make This Country Run!
MIKE ALFORD February 28, 2013 at 05:54 AM
Ok As I Said --- Now It Is so Clear as to why for the last 15 Long and drug out lack of Anything being accomplished at Our Martinez Marina ! Its Very Clear ! Our Mayor & City Counsel Have Taken Millions of Dollars from The State (your TaxDollars) And They Have NOT compleated Any Part Of What They Were PAID (Your Tax Dollars) By The State Of California to build And COMPLEAT a Working Marina ! But see they Keep Telling You NEXT YEAR I Myself Went To The State Of Califonnia - The Dept. Of Waterways And Talked To The The Lady That Runs The Dept Of Waterways I Told her That I Was Running For Office Here In Martinez She Told & Showed Me Everything That has Been Going On And How They Were FED UP with Martinez Leadership and their lack of doing NOTHING to Keep Their Part Of The Deal To Build A Marina Now For All Of You That Dont Believe Me JUST TAKE TIME and Call The Dept Of Waterways In Sacramento Ask to Speak To The Drector Mrs. Lusia Bersara The information is right there for the public ! Anyone of you can obtain this infortmation That is if your interested in the TRUTH Ask Her She Will Tell You That she Told her staff To Send Me Any Information On The Martinez Marina and And She Wished Me Luck Why Cant You People See Just How Much They have kept from the public? And why do you think they would NEVER Let A Real Debate Between The Mayor and I Take Place See If I Would Have Been Able To ASK These Questions Well With The Proof I Had On Paper At Least You Would Have Known The Truth
MIKE ALFORD February 28, 2013 at 06:14 AM
What Happend To My Comments ? I Wrote Two straght comments Talking About The TRUTH and what Ann Mobely Had to say ---- And What The Dept Of WaterWays In Sacramento Had Given Me ! Whats Going On Here Dave ?
Anne Mobley February 28, 2013 at 09:36 AM
Agenda 21 - Lesson 1: Translations sustainability = government control equity = socialism democracy = majority-approved theft public education = government indoctrination centers consensus = different opinions are not to be tolerated growth management or smart growth = stack ‘em and pack ‘em housing comprehensive planning = deprivation of property rights
Anne Mobley February 28, 2013 at 09:38 AM
Agenda 21 - Lesson 2: Buzz Words (Note: most common **) agro ecosystems carbon footprint citizen organizations collective community exchangement community focused exposure community planning consensus comprehensive planning eco-friendly environmental justice ** equitable food deserts food justice ** growth management human impact livability ** livable cities local visioning new urbanization permaculture public-private partnership quality of life resilience ** smart growth social equity ** sustainability ** sustainable development ** think impact urban absorption urban ecosystems viability ** visioning councils vision wildlands projects
Anne Mobley February 28, 2013 at 10:05 AM
Read up on the Delphi Technique, which in group settings, is an unethical method of achieving consensus on controversial topics, requiring well-trained professional facilitators and it is the need of those in power to preserve the illusion that there is community participation in decision-making processes, while in fact outcomes are already preordained. Facilitators encourage people to express concerns about the issue. They listen attentively, elicit input, form task forces, urge list making, and are trained to identify the leaders, the loud mouths, the weak or non-committals, and those who are apt to change sides. Facilitators who are well trained in psychological manipulation become professional agitators and devil's advocates. Using the divide and conquer principle, they manipulate one opinion against another, making those who are out of step appear ridiculous, unknowledgeable, inarticulate, or dogmatic. They are able to predict the reactions of each member in a group. Individuals in opposition to the desired policy or program will be shut out. This Technique is being used very effectively to change our government from a representative form in which elected individuals represent the people, to a participatory democracy in which citizens selected at large are facilitated into ownership of preset outcomes thinking that their input is important to the result, whereas the reality is that the outcome was already established by people not apparent to the participants.
Lawrence Risner February 28, 2013 at 03:32 PM
Unfortunately, in my lifetime (65 awareness years) the waterfront other than the park has always been an ecological mess due mostly to the petrochemical industries - present and past. I still don't see the reasoning in building a senior housing facility next to and down wind from a chemical transportation facility that reeks of chemicals in the air 24/7. I do think that those who make the decisions on what goes where should consider the welfare of others a little more. And unfortunately that brings to mind what redevelopment means to those in charge. Clean up the mess first then see what can be done. Not to change the subject - why not work on the county to build a parking structure in the area right behind the old county administration building - that would benefit the entire city.
MIKE ALFORD February 28, 2013 at 06:38 PM
Now Mr. Risner --- That Was the first thing I brought up at the city counsel Meeting when they were talking about the New Parking Meters - Ive Brought Up That area ^ different times at city counsel meetings --- if anyone remembers the big county building Was suppose to have been torn down when they first Condemed it back in 1996 --- but as you can see it still stands ? when I brought this up three Meetings ago about using that area you just spoke about -- The City Counsel & Mayor Did What They Always Do When I ask A Question -- Nothing No Answer No Comment --- But To be Fair THEY DO THIS TO EVERYONE ! and they have been doing this to everyone And the Mayor Will Remind us that we are only for Comment == And that they Dont Have to answer Me or Anyone ! So you see You Have a Very Valid Question & Point about building or using that area to solve the Parking Issue ---- I think they have other things in mind for building there you know Density ! --- While we are on the subject WHY DID WE (Martinez Tax payers & Citizens) PAY 10.800,000 dollars for The Zolkie Property By Amtrack Wasnt that soppose to be parking Also -- You will Never Get The Truth And They Will Never Listen To You (Or The Citizens ) And That Is A Fact !
Dave Thomas February 28, 2013 at 07:00 PM
To add to this: Senator Feinstein adopted the NAROBI PROTOCOL within her so call assault weapons ban. No to belabor... the weapons banned were designed in 1955byarmi lite (AR) and are not acceptable to the US military AND just like standard modern day automatic pistols overall length 29" and involved in 1.5% of all crime.
MIKE ALFORD February 28, 2013 at 07:05 PM
Ann --- I Did Study A Little About What This Agenda Thing is About --- As You Pointed out ---- Goverment ---- Goverment ---- Goverment Control ! The Only People that Will Have Anything Is The Goverment ! Control Is the Main Issue Is You Read About how Comunest (I know I Didnt Spell it Right) And how it works This ie Excately Whats All over This Agenda They Have In Mind --- Thats Why All The Mindless Ones Are Touting This --- And Now Its Very Clear Of Why Torlickson said 5 years ago THAT HE WANTED TO SEE 500,000 People Living Within 1 to 2 miles of every Inter mogal or Amtrack Station from Oakland to Brentwood That was in the TIMES --- And Also I can See Why NOTHING has Been Done here In Martinez With The Marina --- Spend Tax dollars -- BUT Stall Stall -- Stall -- And Just Look Who Has Been Walking LOCK STEP TOGETHER -- All This Time Together Its Been Kennedy,Her other half Who Ran Housing - Delaney ,Ross, Rob ,Mile --DeSlanure & NOW Glover --- ALL IN THE NAME Of Housing and Very High Density ! Its Very Clear and ANN Im Glad That Fianally Someone With Enough Guts Like Yourself Han Brought This To LIGHT --- WE Better ALL PAY Attintion To What This Agenda Is All About ! === Its LIKE REDEVELOPMENT ------ ON STEROUDS ! --- Oh And I Know We Will Be Hearing From The Cheerleader --- BUT LISTEN TO WHAT ANN HAS JUST PUT UP HERE !!
Dave Thomas February 28, 2013 at 07:07 PM
They are back. You might as well forget the Marina. In the background there is a plan to eliminate it and all free parking. The State of California 10-15 years from now (because they are busy in Berkeley and Richmond) SHALL take over the Marina through the WATER EMERGENCY TRANSIT AGENCY with the full support of the council. There is some talk about a resturant at the marina. FAT CHANCE. No lender will loan on leased land but the City Council will.
Dave Thomas February 28, 2013 at 07:12 PM
ANN sustainability... gotme thunkin If a population increases the expense to control the population increases offset by taxes. The money collected needs to also be used to make sure the infrastructure funds (roads) are adequate to support the growth. If the funds are inadequate then there is a need for more development / taxes or the government goes broke. Since that is within the control of those who have a vested interest in remaining employed GROWTH HAPPENS. Sorta explains why when citizens oppose growth... the government always takes the position that growth is good.
Dave Thomas February 28, 2013 at 07:24 PM
ANN There are few who fully understand how government works and even government employees are isolated (compartmentalized) and seldom go public as they WILL BE fired. City and State employees could be on this site and not disclose their employment status but just like the rest of the lazy citizens they are busy in their lives. You are very bright so I am asking you to click on this link and explain to be why a United Way in South Carolina created a web page on the NEWTON SCHOOL SHOOTING 3 days before it happened. I contacted them by email thus far no response. https://www.google.com/search?q=sandy+hook+united+way&hl=en&newwindow=1&safe=off&biw=1410&bih=709&sa=X&ei=JaDqUL3jAonOhAeU7oDIBQ&ved=0CB4QpwUoBg&source=lnt&tbs=cdr%3A1%2Ccd_min%3A12%2F11%2F2012%2Ccd_max%3A12%2F11%2F2012 IS THIS A SCAM????
Dave Thomas February 28, 2013 at 07:30 PM
Laurence You will get your parking lot. It will be across from AmTrack to serve the 7,000 commuters who will be using the new Ferry System in about 10-15 years. The Ferry system could be sooner of the City builds a Ferry dock. Stand by for TRAFFIC GRIDLOCK. No additional revenue to city of city business and no free parking at the marina. THE PLAN IS IN THE WORKS BEHIND THE SCENES and the power brokers mentioned by Mike Alford will benefit.
Dave Thomas February 28, 2013 at 08:57 PM
Mike... Meters DO NOT produce enough income to pay for the parking employees and there is no excuse that our local police department can not issue the tickets.. If half of the staff in economic development was given signs to waive traffic to downtown "sale at X Store" "Just arrived" "$4.99 breakfast"... business would improve and businesses would see potential. What they see now is Alhambra Ave with no U Turn signs installed in the 80's to get rid of classic cars cruzin... and concrete islands preventing people from turning left or right into their business. Turning downtown into 1 hour free parking zones and having businesses issue parking passes (after a purchase) to be used if a ticket is issued or placed on the dash for an additional hour. No business owner/employee parking. Any business owner can have a specific car "wheel locked" offenders/abusers county employees will soon learn they need to find some county parking. Let the individual business owners have total control of parking. 1 HR PARKING except by permit VIOLATORS WILL BE BOOTED $400.00 FINE TO CLAIM VEHICLE No fine if person shows a purchase from a business in the amount of $20.00 or more. TOTAL win win... and if does not work... we could always go back to parking meters.
MIKE ALFORD March 01, 2013 at 06:29 AM
I couldnt agree with you more ! Ive Brought This Up At four different meetings but you know that they only give you three minutes to talk and usually at these meetings (CITY COUNSEL) Im the only One That brings these questions up -- So the Mayor Just Waits Till my questions or the three minutes are up than just ignors What the question was -- they do this to everyone ! so after 249 straght meetings it doesnt supprise me at all the idea of using the county parking lot I brought up three meetings ago But These people are so Smug that they Do what they want to do -- The public has NO say in any of their Dicisons Even Though they Are Suppose to work For The Citizens of Martinez The Dead Beats Do What ever they Want ---- And Thats A Pure FACT --- Im just wondreing What Is Going to happen to that 40,000 dollars they OKed For A study for a restraunt at the Marina on PropertyWe Dont Own -- And get this the two investors backed out of the Restraunt Deal Last Week Before The Meeting That they Oked The 40K For the Study??? Where OR What Do You Think Is Going To Happen To The 40K --- Now Just How Does That Work ? --- ITS The TAXPAYERS Money !!
MIKE ALFORD March 01, 2013 at 07:21 AM
Sooner ! ITS Got To Stop The Term Miss management And Out Right Corruption Are Real Understatments -- Just Look at the last two decades and the millions of dollars that the state gave Martinez to build a Marina ! Look what is going here Where Did That Money GO? And Now They want to build HOUSING all along the shoreline from Richmond to Oakley ? Well Do You Think The Taxpayer is not starting to see through all of this (And Martinez Spends 10.8 Million dollars on the Zolchi property across from the Amtrack station For Over flow Parking After Paying for consulnts to make this a Parking Lot ? No ! Its Time All Of YOU start DEMANDING Answers To All This Spending ! And Nothing Being DONE ---- They ARE ASKING ON THIS THREAD ---- Should We Start Using & Building Housing all along the shore line ? Do They Think We Are Going to let Them Get AWAY With Building On Our Shore Line ? LOOK they COULDENT Even Built A MARINA HereIn the Last 15 years With The State Giving Them MILLIONS of Your Dollars ! THE Only Real Difference In Our CITY COUNSEL And BELL CALIFORNIA --- THe ONLY Difference Is ---- They Have Already Been Charged & Arraigned !
Lawrence Risner March 01, 2013 at 04:56 PM
Dave, Unfortunately, there is no other place for the county employees to park. The county needs to provide parking for their employees and "obligated" visitors other than at the park or in metered spaces. Even a child could see that adding offices that bring in employees places more demand on the existing parking. Why doesn't everyone notice that increased fuel prices and charges for parking decrease the net income for the average income workers that can't give themselves raises to make up for the costs to hold a job. Another thing, how does one even consider allowing residential building on land that has had a lead smelter, industries with oil and chemical deposits contaminating the soils for more than a century and in some instances it still continues to this day? Isn't it enough that those of us who have chosen to live here now are in a known "cancer" zone due to what is here in the air let alone the soil - someone needs to do a little home work before suggesting building waterfront housing!
Lawrence Risner March 01, 2013 at 04:59 PM
Oops, Dave I wasn't referring or comparing you to a child - I was just using "child" as an example - sorry!
Lawrence Risner March 01, 2013 at 07:30 PM
Wonder how the law suits against HUD is going to work out if they build the low income senior complex next to Telfer Trucking and someone survives long enough to develop cancer while there? On a positive note: I think the parking across from the AMTRAK station is the best idea in years!
Anne Mobley March 02, 2013 at 05:48 PM
Validated parking would help all the businesses downtown. We have asked about that but it fell on deaf ears. The change in the parking situation downtown hurt all of us. Lack of parking spaces makes people circle the block once or twice and then leave if they can't find any. On the 500 block we lost about 7 parking spaces. They end up going to Pleasant Hill's downtown where parking is free.
Lawrence Risner March 02, 2013 at 10:51 PM
I have always wondered why the local city governments are like that Ann. Here's a group of people put in that position by the very people they treat like underlings and are sometimes even rude to them. You can build a throne so they can look down on the meeting visitors but does that mean they have to "lord-over" people. I get the feeling of intimidation and also a sense of being treated a bit lowly having to physically look up to talk to them for not being at eye level. Have to say though that it's not just here that city leaders like to look down upon visitors by having elevated seats. Anyway, maybe instead of spending a ton of money on the marina right now perhaps a parking structure would be a wiser choice for the funds to solve a larger and more urgent problem. Just a thought.......
MIKE ALFORD March 03, 2013 at 04:34 AM
well Let me simplefie That ----- First Of All They Take So Much Money in their campains From The Busbys,Donivans,Siienos And Gus Kramer --- They Have To Answer To Their MASTERS ! ---- You Want The Truth Hear It Is ALL Deals Are Done By And Through These Special Intrests Groups That Have Bought And Paid For With The Help Of Torlickson,DeSlanure Dont Forget Glover eather See These People Are In Line To All Benifit From VERY HIGH DENESITY Building along With Goverment Housing === If You Can Not See This Well You Are Out of Touch With The Sham & Scam That Is Happing RIGHT In Front Of You ! ---- Why Do You Think They They Keep BUYING The Same People And Keeping Them (AS YOU SAY) Looking Down And Talking To Us The Un Washed Masses ! === See I & All of you Know WHY They Cant Afford To Have Someone Like Me Working For The People Of MARTINEZ ---- I Tell The People The Truth !! --- And That CANT LET THAT HAPPEN ---- NOT In MARTINEZ !!!

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