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Dealing with Homelessness in Martinez

Some thoughts on how to deal with homeless issues in Martinez.

Homelessness is something that affects regular citizens, businesses and the city as a whole. The fact is most of us are only a few paychecks from being homeless. In the last year I think the city has changed the way it deals with the homeless, and frankly it's done a pretty good job. The police have done more this last year than most agencies have done in the last five.

I get asked all the time what needs to happen for the homeless to go away. The answer is simply nothing — there always will be homelessness. But the boundaries we set are important.

For one, I would love to see the city do what Concord did in its downtown — no panhandling signs would be great. I get calls all the time about panhandling downtown, so I show up and eight out of 10 times the person isn't even homeless; they have an income like General Assistance or Social Security. Most people don't know this but Martinez has a few board and cares or independent living very close to downtown, even in downtown. I know people have to eat and live but panhandling is so disruptive and makes the homeless look worse than they already do. So my advice is don't give money; buy food or bus tickets. Most of the money handed out is for beer or cigarettes.

The second thing we need to do is educate business owners who leave their dumpsters open or don't have lights up. We need to educate owners on how to be a good neighbor when it comes to homeless issues. Some business owners don't mind it but their neighbor is forced to deal with it because of owners who don't mind homeless in front of their business.

Third, I think we need to educate the liquor stores on the effect of businesses in downtown continuously selling booze to the homeless. I've seen it and it does affect others when a homeless person makes two or three trips for alcohol. Cut them off for downtown's sake.

I know this sounds like I want the homeless gone, too, but what I want is for them to respect the city they live in, and to get services and off the streets. Everyone deserves a home to call their own.  

Withmar July 5, 2011 at 01:47 pm
The drunks and vagrants that are hanging around town were met to feel welcome years ago. And now feel even more so they stay because it's easy liven, free lunch up the block every day, free entertainment and the weateher fine. Long time residents doing business in town feel uncomfortable, are harrassed and are even assaulted. It is time that the vagrants are made to feel equally uncomfortabable. Start by acting less friendly and make living free more dificult around downtown. Ask them simply to move on.
Tell businesses owners you are put off the vagrants outside thier doors and you might not come back. It works! If you feel threaten call the police!!! Keep their feet moving!
Douglas Stewart July 6, 2011 at 03:23 am
thank you withmar I agree if there uncomfortable I believe they have to get into services off the streets .i stress to the homeless not to hang on main and or behind bulldogs I do ask them to move on but I always offer services My thought is if your not taking services or trying to get help for alcohol or Mental health than I think your a police problem and you should be dealt with and notify police regularly of issues
James July 8, 2011 at 08:23 pm
Well I am a new resident to downtown Martinez (1 year) and I do agree strongly that there is a big problem with the homeless downtown. Most are harmless drunks but the fact that they blatantly breaking the law by drinking during the day and taking over the parks make it a bit uncomfortable to use the parks in the neighborhood. Rankin, the corner park behind the county building and the Marina Park are all becoming overwhelmed with the homeless. On the morning of the 5th there were 3 people sleeping in the corner park by Amtrak when I was walking my dogs. They dig through my recycling bin every Sunday night after I put it out as they make their rounds about downtown. I know we are in an economic hard place in America but I feel that it takes away from the charm of this great city. As a citizen I would like to do more for the homeless but every time I ask, they say “I don’t need help I need a dollar”. I would like to help on this issue but I am afraid that there here to stay. I am surprised more theft has not happened already. I do think the police are doing a great job and I would not want to ask more of them. I just think there are no where else for these people to go and in fact Martinez is the “end of the line”. Thank you for the article!
Withmar July 9, 2011 at 03:15 pm
Some of the vagrants have been here longer than you have. Taking over children ballfields. Urinating in park building doorways. They are feeling welcome here.
Our town is being degraded! Make the drunks and vagrants feel as unwelcome as the people who come to downtown see them and don't come back as often or not at all! Understand harm is done by the "harmless drunks". Bussiness loss, property distuction, threats to police and public, bodily harm, and more. Out Reach: Do not interact with them at events it make their behavior feel accepted. When they appear unstable, drunk, drugged, ask them to walk away from the event area before caring on a conversation with they it reinforces the welcome feeling. Some of the drunks are flonting the law and are being ignored smoking at public invents while making a spectical unseamly to many. It sends the measage that they can do and act as they please with no recourse.
Douglas Stewart July 9, 2011 at 06:23 pm
Withmar
I do interact with them checking for alcohol or asking them not to make a seen I only interact if I m asked by the a citizen or cop If they come up to me and speak to me I offer services I don't hand out things or seek them out withmar you would Im asked and thanked for being there I do agree our officers need more tools no loitering or panhandling signs in downtown . I cant do anything about issues such as dancing or listening to music and this season there has only been one alcohol related stop and any show . any time you have a question your welcome to email me or call im even willing to have ride alongs . If i see issues with homeless that are problems I contact the police asap and im in constant contact with police at all times I think your thoughts on things in your first paragraph are a little far fetched I am out every night and see the drinking but the property destruction and harm against other citizens is at a minimum and that happens every where not just homeless . I cant do everything withmar but I will try to consider some of your thoughts one more thing I walk around with a cop so no homeless want to talk to me hardly . your more than welcome to come out with me I think you would see that my thought is if your not seeking help your a problem
Douglas Stewart July 9, 2011 at 06:36 pm
withmar I sent my personal info to your message board
Withmar July 10, 2011 at 02:13 pm
My comments are fact and have been reported in the local news and experenced by martinez citizens. Drunks and vagrants need to be moved on not given free meals delivered on schedule in Martinez business districts and residential areas.
There is no incentive for them leave. A new business opened this weekend and vagrants congrigated across the street from the opening event. New patrons from out of town came and what did they see right out side the main door, the vagrants. Then their scheduled meal was deliver down the street. They scurried away and came back shortly after with little respect of the those who do business where.
Douglas Stewart July 10, 2011 at 05:58 pm
Your not stating fact I asked them to move and I know a fact that mpd patroled that area all night I asked them to leave at around 8p and they did .If you have all the answers ands know all the facts maybe I should call the next time there are 8 or 9 inmates that need a ride out of town the fact is there are 23 homeless in mtz on the streets and it is a very small problem compared to our neighboring cities . On top of that there is no prohibiting them from siting there or anywhere else in downtown our officers dont have the tools they need all they can is ask them to leave as I said there needs to be no loitering signs and no panhandling signs so I agree with you to a certain point . Again I offer you the chance to come out with me and see the real facts. I think mpd does a great job . If you want they could arrest every homeless person a couple times a week at a 500$ expense to the city for booking fees but it still wouldn't solve your problem they get out and you ve spent money for a one or two stay at the jail for this homeless person and there still here the only way to get rid of them is make them uncomfortable so they have to get services and housing as far as your newspaper stuff it might have happened but it happens at the bars also you close them to . bails bonds have felons there daily you want to close them to .And there free meal 2/3's of the people that eat there are not homeless just poor
Withmar July 11, 2011 at 11:31 am
Drunks and vagrants do harm to business, people and property and it has been reported in local papers and to police, a reference to fact. They are not harmless drunks as stated by James. The rest is observation and did occur. No reference to closing any businesses was made. Read comments more carefully. No mention of arrest, to make drunks and vagrants unwelcome does not always involve arrest or even the police.
James July 11, 2011 at 01:44 pm
I am checking back on this article to see if anyone else from the community has added comments to try to combat this issue. In my previous comment I addressed some of the homeless as “Harmless Drunks” this was to point out that they are more or less non-violent. But I do agree they are causing some collateral damage to downtown businesses and residents. This last Sunday I took a walk with my wife down to Granger’s Wharf and though the marina. On our way there was an elderly couple speaking to an East Bay Park employee while he was cleaning out the trash bins. They were in a deep discussion regarding the homeless and the negative impact it is causing to the local area. They were discussing the fact that in the park that morning there were over 6 of them just lying around with their personal effects laid out on the lawn while they were drinking. The park employee stated that his hands were tied, that even if they called the cops and the cops got there fast enough they would just take the booze and leave them be in most cases
James July 11, 2011 at 01:44 pm
I stood there listening to them I realized that they all felt helpless to deal with this problem. The older couple felt they could no longer enjoy the park when they were hassled for money or cigarettes. What as a community can we do to help mitigate this problem? If we did get signs up about loitering and panhandling will it stop anything? Will it be enforced? Douglas stated that there were 23 documented homeless cases but 23 in a small area is still a problem. I think Douglas is doing the best he can with what he has. The economy and the attraction of free meals is adding to this growing problem. I don’t have the answers but I am willing to listen to ideas. We as a community must deal with this issue. I know the police have taken up patrol districts and assigned a “beat cop” to each district. I think it is time we as citizens develop a relationship with the police to provide them with greater detail on the activities of the homeless such as rooting through your trash for cans and hanging out on your corner. We must do something before this turns into an epidemic.
Douglas Stewart July 11, 2011 at 08:24 pm
great comment James and let me be clear I have no tolerance if your not getting help your a problem some are on wait lists I do stay in constant contact with PD and but at the same time they can only do so much I feel helpless at times and know they do to I give rides out of town almost nightly my goal is to move them into services and out of MTZ so they get on there on sure the police could take people to jail every night but it doesn't solve the problem and the city pays everytime someone is booked
Stacey July 12, 2011 at 01:15 am
Places like Loaves and Fishes should have a "No Service Without Services" policy to discourage those unwilling to seek help from lingering in our community. A few years back, Loaves and Fishes moved temporarily to the church on Susana (the regular church didn't want the homeless around their summer children's bible camp, with good reason). The church on Susana, however, was right across the street from the Early Intervention Preschool at the time, and before the first morning was even half over there had been two medical calls (drunken falls), a man screaming and yelling and urinating in the street, obvious solicitation of prostitution, and police coming and going continually, all in full view of the 3-5 year-olds on the playground. The teachers had to bring the kids in for the rest of the day to avoid any more exposure. It is just wrong to have community resources like parks and trails rendered unusable to families who don't want to expose their kids to these kinds of behaviors.
James July 12, 2011 at 02:17 pm
Douglas,
What as a community should we be doing now to help resolve this problem? On Monday night and this morning the small park by the Amtrak station had several homeless people drinking in a circle without the police present. I know you are taking a very active role in trying to solve this problem, you are the best informed to help deal with this problem. My question to you is what as a community should we be doing to help? Do we need to tell the City Council to pass additional ordnances and post signage as you suggested? What else needs to be done? The way that I feel is that the homeless control the problem, that is if I for instance was to start drinking in the park I of course would be arrested and booked, but of a homeless person was to be caught doing the same thing they would just at best have there booze taken away due to the cost the city would incur.
James July 12, 2011 at 02:18 pm
So how I see it the control remains with the homeless, much like a protest. Even if we put them in jail they will cost the community money and just get back on the streets again. Can the city adopt a policy regarding the homeless? Such as a partnership with a non-profit to offer some kind of work incentive/ clean and sober program in exchange for room and board or if not they are escorted out of the city. The thing is that I don’t want to burden the other cities with this problem so what are some realistic things we can do? It’s getting pretty bad man and I would like to see the city get cleaned up a bit. Thanks for your efforts!
Douglas Stewart July 13, 2011 at 05:32 pm
James Great comments We have non profits already in our county that have work incentives even will help with resumes ,clothes ,etc .Another agency called me the yesterday and told that they will a zero tolerance policy in certain areas of this city I was to let the homeless know that in the area,Like I said I think if your not getting help your a problem I am quick to let the PD know the best thing you can do if your having a constant issue in your area IS call the police so the problem is documented if the police see that I could help they'll call me if not then they can give citations or jail with a strong warning not to return
Douglas Stewart July 13, 2011 at 05:36 pm
I really believe that the homeless go were things are easy and they can get things easy we need to get our liquior stores not to sell alcohol to them more once a day and and we need to educate business owners in the downtown area how to deal with the homeless community

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